it's an administration that there's been plenty of grumbling about that president obama has not spent muff time courting them, that he doesn't care about them. he was very briefly a member of congress and it's not a priority. i think some of that just goes with the territory. that theenz democrats too as well as republicans. >> chris, kelly, thank you both very much. >>> immigration reform, joining me now, one of the lawmakers who took part in today's congressional hearings, the house hearings on immigration policy. ru ease gutierrez, thank you very much. this was sort of the opening act on the house side. we've seen a big shift on republicans -- in republicans and a lot of action coming from the senate. what are you seeing on the house side? >> well, here's what i'm seeing on the house side. here we have the judiciary committee, and it's first hearing on the full committee. what are we discussing? immigration. some would say, well, the kind of focussing on the high skilled industry and the need for more. that's good. i support more visas. part of comprehensive immigration reform is m